加油未来通过包容性创新与詹妮弗·乔的故事

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凯蒂(00:00:04)欢迎来到无数创新的故事,我们放大无数故事的洞察力,和创新的影响。由数不清的内容。乐动体育足球我是你的主人,凯蒂Trauth泰勒。今天我们的客人是詹妮弗·乔。她是先锋公司的首席执行官。健康和急诊室医师使得波士顿卫生保健系统。詹妮弗·乔是一个LinkedIn上的声音。她把如此多的精力在创新[00:00:33]的COVID-19大流行。(1.6秒)詹妮弗,今天谢谢你的播客。

珍妮花00:00:38凯蒂,荣幸地站在这里。

凯蒂(00:00:40)所以现在生活怎么样?我认为它很,很有压力。

凯蒂[00:00:45]是的,生活是充满压力的。我们在波士顿约三个星期,所以我们很早就开始COVID暴发和流行。它对我们来说是一个真正的学习经验。你知道,我认为有很多焦虑当我们第一次开始,我知道这个国家的其他地方和每个人的感觉当你第一次遇到它。

凯蒂(00:01:12)确定。

珍妮花[00:01:12]我感觉非常好。我想,你知道,我们都依赖于我们当地的环境把正确的保护的地方。有很多当地政府正在做的事情来保护我们。马萨诸塞州,波士顿,我认为,有很好的步骤。我们有一个超级强大的医院系统,也把所有正确的步骤。所以我感觉很好。

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凯蒂(00:01:34)好。三周是一个有趣的时刻。你能告诉我们关于如何似乎每一小时,每一秒,情况正在改变。所以在上个月发生了什么变化你的生活?

珍妮花(00:01:51)所以,你知道,我认为我们已经有了一个戏剧性的变化,美国有一个戏剧性的变化。我认为世界上有一个戏剧性的变化。这是一个惊喜。作为一个临床医生,看到它那么深刻的,你知道,我认为纽约是深远的。这是一个有趣的学习经验。你知道,作为临床医生,我认为我们有一个眼睛。我们看着它,看数据。但是,是的,这是一个突然剧烈的情绪变化。我认为当我们看到它或面对它,它只是发生得很快。这是可怕的,可怕的对我们所有人。 There’s lots of fear. You just don’t know what’s happening. You’re looking for data. You’re looking to leaders to find the right data, set the right precedents, and get the right processes in place to address it. You’re looking for leaders for transparency. Clinicians need to feel safe. The community needs to feel safe. Definitely. For me, a big thing, which I think a lot of us faced, was with COVID the older population is at great risk. And so for me personally, you know, making sure my friends and family, so specifically my parents were being safe. And that we all have experience with our lovely—they are lovely.

凯蒂(00:03:12)试图让我们的父母做我们想要他们做什么。有一个搞笑的视频现在到处在Facebook上的一对老夫妇,儿子走到他们。这是早期的大流行。他说,好吧,伙计们,你有两个选择。你可以呆在这里单独在一起。选项a或。在他可以说选项B之前,母亲选择B, B选项。所以不轻松,你知道,

珍妮花(00:03:46)然而,这就是我们需要的。我认为我们都需要笑声、欢乐、安全社区,找到我们的新标准。

凯蒂(00:03:57)是的。是的。你知道,我们的团队在数不清的内容很钦佩你在LinkedIn是你的贡献。乐动体育足球和这是一个确实是令人瞠目结舌,非常引人注目的看到所有的更新。如果你正在听这个播客,你不是已经在詹妮弗·乔LinkedIn,你必须这样做。我很感激你做时间分享数据和分享它以令人信服的方式,让公众了解你所看到的,什么是一个日常的基础上。告诉我们一点关于你的观点为什么你让时间这样做。

珍妮花[00:04:36][00:04:36]所以我认为讲故事和正确的信息是非常重要的。在我们的文化中有很多的噪音。社交媒体,新闻有很多噪音和有意义的,可靠的信息是困难的,与社交媒体和特别困难。科学家。我认为科学家和临床医生正在适应如何有一个声音在当前存在的通信模式。我如何让一位科学家很感兴趣的,凯蒂,我想正如你提到的,领导不一定得到承认美国文化使其他领导者,如何给他们一个声音,让它有趣,引人注目的,这样我们可以在正确的方向引导社区,给他们感到安全可靠的信息。(59.9秒),所以我认为这是非常重要的。和一块大的在于我没有成长的故事,使我产生了共鸣。所以我认为这很有趣。重要的。 So I’m just gonna go through a little bit of my background to how this came about for me. So my background. I am currently in Boston and I finished training at the Harvard hospitals, which makes me seem kind of fancy. And that’s all great. But my background is I’m from Mississippi. I was born and raised in Mississippi. And my grandparents were Chinese immigrants who ran grocery stores in the Delta. So the poorest part of the United States. They had no education. They had no money when they immigrated. And they made a life. Then my parents grew up and they lived the American dream. So they went from living in poverty, running grocery stores, so small mom and pop grocery stores with an entire family of five kids and two adults packed into one room with one bathroom at the back of a grocery store running this, you know, 365 days a year. You know, 12, 14 hours a day. And they live the American dream. So they went to the public education system. They didn’t have any money and they became physicians.

凯蒂00:07:17哇。

珍妮花[00:07:17]所以拥有一切,如果你曾经有一个亚洲或中国妈妈,这是一个——永远不会完成他们完成。very-their故事,我觉得,他们的移民生活通过我恐惧。所以我很幸运。他们会说。我让他们成长,去医学院。我去医学院在密西西比州。我在乔治敦大学内科住院医师。我和我走到波士顿和我哈佛大学附属麻省总医院肾脏学奖学金和布里格姆和妇女。完成之后,我真的开始毕业后两家公司。一个是一个软件公司,一个是一家媒体公司。 Built them and then sold them in 2018 and integrated them in 2019. And the immigrant fear that my—we talk about more but lives through my parents and then clearly lives through my grandparents is part of me. And it haunts us. And I think part of that is that, on the flip of a dime, you can suddenly lose your career, your safety and your livelihood. I think we have seen a little bit of that in response to Chinese and American born Chinese in the US with COVID-19. So I think it’s something that I as a Chinese American have and live with. But it’s taught me two things and—or it drives me to do two things. One is a commitment to addressing and preventing social injustices. So I live my life with big dreams of improving the health care system for Americans, and I’m always working on that. But the second, which I think is particularly pertinent to this, is role models through stories. [00:09:04]So Katie, what you’re doing through this is amazing and powerful. [4.1s] So my point is, what could we do as a community if we really allowed women and minorities to build and to lead, if we really allowed them to fully contribute to science, startups, and medicine? And we know the data. The data is they’re not in leadership positions and they still aren’t getting paid. You’d think physicians would be paid equivalent to— women physicians would be paid equivalent to men. They’re not. And it’s even worse for minority women. Some of the stats say that minority women get 40 to 60 percent of what a man who’s not a minority would earn. So what could we do if we could empower women to really contribute, really build science, startups and medicine? And I say that because I started two companies and I didn’t have a story growing up, I didn’t have the ambition to start a company. It was really an accident. [00:10:14]So where were those stories of accidentally starting two companies and then finding it’s actually not as—I don’t know. Is it not as hard or do women just say after we’ve done something that it wasn’t that hard? And really we should be like, it was really hard and I’m amazing. [13.8s]

凯蒂[00:10:30]我爱这么多。我很感激你刚才说的一切。从,第一,承认文化和种族间的紧张关系出现在冠状病毒,这件不公平的故事需要有出来,科学被理解和被理解,它没有种族主义色彩。我很感激你,和你说话。然后另一个非常重要的想法,真正的动力,动力之一,这些播客的背后是[00:11:08]如果我们听到彼此的故事,然后我们可以相信未来可以做类似的事情,激发创造,看到这一幕,哦,虽然我可能不像绝大多数的人会得到风险资本,我仍然是值得我还是能力。我被吹走了,你可以开始两家公司在做一个急救室医生。(27.5秒),所以你能告诉我们一点吗?告诉我们你如何意外偶然发现。我听到一些创业源于你的祖父母和你的父母,但我知道那不是相同的东西开始两个科技公司。

珍妮花[00:11:52][00:11:52]我肯定告诉这个故事,而且我肯定感觉非常强烈,这是医学可以更好。完成实习后,我开始寻找创新的解决方案和完成奖学金。,我认为这是一个很多,就我这一代,——我不知道这是我这一代就因为医学的改变或我们比以往任何时候都更多的女性(22.4秒)这是第一次,我们有了更多的女性比男性进入医学院,我们有更多的少数族裔进入医学院。我认为很多人有一个很大的失望与卫生保健和确保它是交付给病人以一种有意义的方式。医患关系意义为什么我们没有,我们需要和想要的吗?为什么我们不能去病人吗?为什么我们有这么多差异?所以我肯定,但是我从来没有故事或愿景。开始一个公司从未想过,在我的生活。这是一次意外。 I was supporting a friend who was starting a company and I wanted to be supportive of him. And yet it grew from there. And then I found, yes—it’s not the overly ambitious “I knew I wanted to start a company from when I was eight,” which I think is something that may be a disservice that we give women is that we don’t paint that story for them and empower them and say, hey, as a woman, if you see what’s wrong, you can really do something powerful about it. At least for me, the story was I was always going to be a wife and more or less—not that a wife is bad, but like a wife in the shadow of a man. I feel like that was always the story, and I think we even see that in Hollywood in that it’s only in the last five years that we even have Hollywood stories which will have independent female leads outside of a man. So I definitely think the stories I was told I was in a shadow of a man and I feel like I didn’t allow myself the ability to creatively explore what me being an independent leader would look like. So I think we need to provide that for women. [00:14:07]And so I’m going to tell the story of what that means and what that means for women physicians, because I want to just underscore what that means. Katie, of the importance of stories for women. [10.7s] So right now, I’ve already mentioned that—it’s like 51, 52 percent women entering med school, which is the first time ever that we’ve had more women in our med school than men.

凯蒂[00:14:31]这是难以置信的。

珍妮花[00:14:32]他们仍然不成比例的反映,有各种原因,但他们领导和代表参加水平位置。但如果你想想。喜欢去通过医学院的培训,你是一个女人和医学院这么大讲排场,你会是这么大的礼乐动体育266堂。[00:14:54]有很多恐惧和每个医学生都知道这一点,当你走进教室时,你必须去这长长的走廊。总是有很长的走廊。有时候往往是一个著名的走廊,但总是很长的走廊带你去各种类。,我们都知道我们谈论这个走廊,走廊过去的领导人,我们路过相框相框后大量金油画相框的领袖的过去。,这可能是20、30、40照片我们每天经过思考我是谁呢?我要做什么呢?我要什么样的医生吗? And unfortunately, those leaders that are peering out at us don’t look like us. They’re very rarely women. They’re very rarely minorities. And it’s just hard for us to envision if we’re walking past that every day. Who am I? What do I look like? Can I see myself in the Oval Office? Can I see myself running a medical school? Can I see myself running a department? So stories are just incredibly important. They’re not just stories. They’re visions of ourselves that we need to smell. We need to see. We need to touch. And we need to believe. Katie, stories make them believable. [81.1s]

凯蒂[00:16:16]是的,当然。我喜欢的图片,我不喜欢你画的图片,但我知道,图像很好当我在普渡。[00:16:24]如果你走过学校的工程,它是一样的向下的感觉工程主要走廊和所有的明矾。你甚至不看到一个女人的脸,直到1980年代。就像一分之一的男性面孔的海洋。所以,是的,当你're-when环境,当那是历史和你不断提醒的历史。同时,如果没有强大的故事挑战过去和创建一种文化,致力于做的更好,提高多样性和改善夹杂物,这每个人的故事,它可以潜意识甚至可以说服你,你还没准备好承担领导角色。你还没有准备好成为一名工程师。(47.4秒)

珍妮花[00:17:12]哦,绝对的。它叫做无意识的偏见。我们有很好的数据。所以有许多女性医生领导人量化,甚至,如果生活在女性。如果你只是看到图片不是你作为领导者,你相信它。我们有无偏,量化数据。所以有很多的计划抛一些图片。所以波士顿医学图书馆我两年来的受托人的计划。哈佛医学院的计划添加不同的领导是什么样子的照片。朱莉银一个女性参加的活动,女性外科医生,医学生展示的样子是一个医生或外科医生。 And I realized that the youth today—I’m not that old—have really challenged my bias. Right. Because even in my head, I had to realize. A lot of women attendings are smaller people. I’m a smaller frame person—but are smaller and they look younger. We talk differently and that can be a whole nother subject. We manage differently. We lead differently. We give orders differently. And me responding and understanding my own bias and recognizing that has just really struck a tone of how powerful that is and the importance of getting up different images of leadership and stories.

凯蒂[00:18:43]你能告诉我们,有某些人或一系列女性改变了故事吗?

珍妮花[00:18:50]所以我可以多谈谈朱莉银和她的灵感?你可以在Twitter上关注她。你可以看看她的数据,你可以看一些她的信仰而言,确保我们有图片和故事,女人可以联系,但是我们实际上移动针以战略方式。所以我认为她非常鼓舞人心的。所以我认为这是巨大的。我的存在,我认为我努力,一直努力寻找女性榜样来查找,镜子,来创建一个故事,我是谁。这是我应该内化,想想这是为什么。也许,凯蒂,故事就没有可用和可访问。

凯蒂(00:19:43)是的,我的意思是,我认为当我问它,,我很好奇如果有一个时刻,也许这也是你的父母,但是,医学院似乎成为可能。然后有一个时刻开始,该公司似乎可能吗?你有自我怀疑你开始从一个支持的角色和创业实际建立一个你的朋友吗?

珍妮花(00:20:03)确定。所以我认为这是一个女人的事。但在我的房子,我知道人们喜欢,哇,珍妮弗,你总是怀疑自己。我一直生活在怀疑。我从来没有觉得我的意思是,现在我已经把它卖了,我有一些空间,我觉得很舒服,但是可能直到六个月之前我还是有很多疑问。我认为怀疑驻留在很多恐惧和发现我是谁,我是谁作为一个领导者,我的下一个步骤是创建一个有意义的职业,因为我认为只是没有,许多女性。所以我肯定认为我住我的很多疑问和想给女性生活的工具和故事和支持,相信自己,因为我认为它将是指数我们创建当我们允许这种情况发生。

凯蒂[00:21:05]我欣赏你去那里和分享,因为它只是统计女性创业者真的不太可能迅速扩展他们的公司,他们不太可能寻求风险资本,他们不太可能承担贷款和承担相同的风险,她们的男性,尤其是白色的男性更有可能。为什么,有很多不同的因素都是它们的方式。但是其中一个是——我们更仔细的用别人的钱。

珍妮花[00:21:41]你这么小心。而且,你知道,你不认为女人最终的计划吗?我觉得我们最终的规划者。

凯蒂(00:21:48)是的。

珍妮花(00:21:49)我们总是寻找最坏的情况。的意思是,就像,这是我们的五个最糟糕的情况下。

凯蒂(00:21:56)是的。所以我认为这么多的人,而不仅仅是女性认为很多男同事可以与这种感觉的冒名顶替者综合症。我们与我们的一个客户刚刚出版第一系统回顾对不起,荟萃分析在骗子的现象。

珍妮花(00:22:13)是的。

凯蒂(00:22:14)是的。它影响所有专业本质上,特别是少数民族。

珍妮花00:22:19哦。

凯蒂[00:22:21]人少数民族之间的差距,他们的感情骗子综合征是更大的甚至比男性和女性之间的差距。

珍妮花[00:22:30]不,是完全正确的。是的。不,我需要吸收和消化。和朱莉银也有一些好点因为我们谈论冒名顶替者综合症很多。这是一个有趣的观点。有趣的观点,因为我不完全相信我曾冒名顶替者综合症,因为我认为我一直相当透明的对我的恐惧和担忧,如不足。如果你这样做。乔博士,你担心什么?

凯蒂[00:23:02]我真的爱。

珍妮花(00:23:02)给你。

凯蒂[00:23:05]。是的。

珍妮花[00:23:06]我担心。

凯蒂[00:23:08]事实上,也喜欢从心理健康的角度来看。的治疗,对吗?承认的感情,能够表达他们,接受他们,把消极,有点像自我批评。把音量关小。好了。也许你有症状和你用。

珍妮花[00:23:29]我接受不断的唠叨的不足和从来没有成为一个有意义的领袖。

凯蒂(00:23:38)哦,我的天啊。当然,当然。那是不正确的。你在领导职位时,你没有预料到在你开始吗?

珍妮花(00:23:54)噢,是的,当然。我从没想过我会开始,发现该公司。我从未想过我会招聘。你知道,当您运行一个公司的成功,你开始招聘的人。我从未想过我会出售公司。我甚至不知道它意味着什么。

凯蒂(00:24:09)我想知道更多关于这个。你能-。

珍妮花(00:24:10)真的吗?整个意外地启动一个公司吗?

凯蒂(00:24:15)是的。所以告诉我们公司,为什么你启动它,它是如何产生,如何扩展,如何把它卖了。我很乐意听到这个故事。

珍妮花(00:24:21)你知道,我在波士顿和在波士顿有很多创新。和我有一个好朋友有一开始公司的愿景。我想要支持。是的,他就像我们这么做。让我们一起做。他让我因为他是首席执行官,嘿,这是一个医疗公司。所以我真的想要你的脸,那就是,如果你想开始一个医疗公司,这是非常重要的多个原因。,你知道,当它发生的时候,你知道,我们所做的项目和工作上,我们仍然拥有全职工作。我说,是的,是的,是的,我会这样做。我将支持。 And it was more of a chief medical officer position, I think, than a CEO position. Then it turned out that I was quite good at it and enjoyed it and was quite successful. And of the numerous projects we started, the one where he had made me CEO was the most successful. So we pared down and we said, we’re gonna focus on this. And I also said, hey, you know, as a startup, I think—and as a startup, you’re always living in fear of failing. So you never have enough money and you’re always afraid that you’re not gonna make payroll. And you’re always planning for the contingency plan of shutting down and calling it a day with your company professionally for your employees. It’s a constant fear. [00:25:50]It’s profound what startup entrepreneurs do. And I [3.8s] did it for seven years. So we did that for two years. Because I said, well, if we’re going to do it and we’re going to fail—and this has always been a motto of mine—we should have given it everything and really fail. You know, let’s not do this half hearted failing. So if you’re gonna fail, you should fail with your full intentions and in full heart, because then you have no regrets, because then you look back, you say, I did everything. No regrets. We still failed, but we gave it our all. So, we did that. So we quit our full-time jobs for two years, gave it everything. And then it started becoming really successful. And we started doing really well with it. And it was in those last two to three years that I really became a CEO, meaning I was fully trained in medicine, but I’d never really looked at a budget. I’ve never really managed employees, really built a product, really managed customers, really guided a sales team. So I learned all of that in the course of two to three years, which is a lot of learning. And we became very successful. And that’s I think in the last two years was when I think you would call me a real CEO. I think before that I was definitely an impostering CEOs. In the last two years, I learned the full operations of the business. And there were a lot of learning lessons at the very end as well in terms of leading an acquisition, managing that, and then integrating into a six hundred people company and managing that transition.

凯蒂[00:27:45]我已经听到我们的谈话,你把你所有的内容,讲故事在你心里很重要。是什么启发了你创建一个媒体公司,是什么影响你看到周围和分享故事在医疗和创新?

珍妮花(00:28:01)是的。医学技术波士顿是一个纯粹的热情的举动。地铁,这是一个软件公司,是开始。我说,你知道,我们是全新的。我们没有建立。我们没有销售团队。医疗保健这个巨大的门槛,我们不资助。所以我们没有风险的支持。我们的创始人之一是超级成功,有一个很好的头在他肩膀的销售,建筑公司,但在国际市场,而不是医疗保健。这是一个真正的障碍。 And so we saw that and we said, hey, I think one of the places that we’re going to be successful is in innovations. And people who are willing to try new things. And so that got me really involved in the digital health scene. So at the time, we wouldn’t even call it digital health. So, yes, MedTech Boston was the first ever—I’m not going to officially say it. I unofficially believe and have not gathered data to the contrary that it is the first or one of the first dedicated digital health publications before we were calling it digital health. So it was in Boston, where technology was hot. We have M.I.T. We have Harvard. We have a lot of clinicians. We have a lot of people trying to solve problems. And it was all ad hoc. We weren’t talking to each other. We weren’t coming together in a meaningful way just because we didn’t know what was happening, who was doing what. And that was the impetus for med tech Boston to be feet on the ground. What are engineers at MIT [00:29:42]doing? What are different scientists and different labs at Brigham or Harvard or Tufts doing? And how do they talk to each other, work together and collaborate in a meaningful way? [12.8s]

凯蒂(00:29:58)难以置信。我当然会极客。这是如此令人兴奋。

珍妮花(00:30:03)是的,你可能也知道这个。然后是所有这些其他媒体碎片。所以,你知道,人们不想读或以不同的方式阅读。他们以不同的方式使用信息。所以我们-。

凯蒂[00:30:18]委婉说法。

珍妮花[00:30:20]我从来都不喜欢阅读。我认为我有点诵读困难,从来没有被诊断。和这是一个真正的克服障碍,成为一名医生谁不喜欢读书。

凯蒂[00:30:32]你知道虽然我们听说很多临床,你知道的,与客户临床医生,只是如何你有吸收的信息量在这样短的时间,可见或越多,您可以利用数据可视化或你能给生活带来一个故事迅速,越好。正确的。你只是把它的职业,你只是不断的类型。的不同的数据和信息,你要分析和决策。

珍妮花00:31:02肯定。

凯蒂[00:31:03]这是有意义的。没有很多耐心非常,你知道,写作不简洁,这样假设。

珍妮花(00:31:12),但所有的你的听众是谁,我四十了。所以我有播客之前训练有素。所以我读书。

凯蒂(00:31:18)哦,我的天啊,这是不可思议的。好的,现在告诉我们关于先锋。健康和你。

珍妮花[00:31:26]是的,同样的使命和激情。Vanguard.healthis pretty new. Then it’s dedicated to solving that same problem. [00:31:36]So open innovation, how do you bring innovation communities together to create meaningful change in healthcare and life sciences? [5.7s] So one of the things that’s MedTech Boston kind of did ad-hoc. It wasn’t a focus of ours, but we did a lot of them. And that’s an interesting learning lesson as someone who’s ever started a company, which is what are your products? How many of them do you have and are you appropriately focused on your products? So we produced a lot of open innovation challenges. There’s online innovation challenges and there’s also the live events piece. And we had some customers who wanted to explore those. And so we produced open innovation challenges for them. One customer in particular, Boston Scientific, who works with Google every year, has been running an open innovation challenge in that format where they are really interested in engaging the on the ground community. And they do it through an open innovation challenge where they have open submissions for three to four months. They look at them. [00:32:36]There’s an element of crowd voting because there’s the element of we’re all working together and potentially the crowd knows, you know, more and can contribute a lot to this process. And then there’s an element of judge voting as well. And then there’s a pitch off that culminates in a live event, because I think there’s a lot of digital communications that we’re seeing. But you always need real relationships, Katie, and I think you know that. Real relationships are what the world is built on, and oftentimes that happens in real life. So we would culminate with a live event to really facilitate those real relationships and pick winners. [36.5s] So Vanguard.Health is focused on that and produces it. There’s one contract in particular that I’ve been working on that I look forward to hopefully announcing in the next few weeks.

凯蒂(00:33:26)有趣。是提供软件结构的组合创新挑战,而且背后的服务提供一种方法如何运行?

珍妮花[00:33:38]有背后的策略你在做什么,你想完成什么。然后几个选项的方法的尝试和校准的弄清楚的生产和执行你想要什么。有很多不同的版本。我很高兴我会认为传统企业迁移到。我想我们都见过。和他们也理解的那部分(00:34:02)拥抱创新是告诉他们的故事,在故事和讲故事更有意义。(5.6秒)这故事也是一大块。我不生产播客和实际生产的故事。这是合同的一部分,我们将帮助客户执行。

凯蒂[00:34:26]是的,当然。所以告诉我们在一个创新的挑战。我和其他的,你知道,更多的企业播客受访者故事出现在他们的企业层次创新的挑战。但我想爱你的角度来看,当你试图创造开放创新挑战跨多个玩家在医疗保健系统。你在哪里看到故事重要吗?我想象尤其是在支持或获得冠军,形成团队,之类的。

珍妮花[00:34:57]我认为我们如何交流是彻底改变。我认为美国文化需求真实性。所以我认为这就是为什么未经过滤的社交媒体内容已经如此受欢迎。我也认为我们需要了解谁是运行大公司因为我们需要让他们负起责任。我们希望看到。所以我认为这是转移和美国公众希望的大公司理解这意味着什么,而且我认为大机构。所以联邦政府公布在美国宇航局有趣的计划,也就是理解讲故事的重要性,以一种有意义的方式,这样人们就可以收拾东西感到无形的或难以理解和做一些有意义的事情。你知道,我认为我们至少我想的很多,因为我总是说我不擅长科学和数学,我永远不会做一个优秀的工程师。我不擅长数学。我不知道。 I went through differential equations at Rice University and it was OK. I wasn’t in love with it. But was it the fact that I was just told I was bad with it and it was given to me in a way that was not exciting and maybe I could have come up with an amazing engineering product? I don’t know. So I obsess about that because I wonder that if we gave the information, scientific information and inspired people, that we could just cure cancer next year versus, you know, five or 10 years from now. So corporations and the federal government, I think, are thinking about that, internalizing that. I’m seeing really interesting, good moves by big organizations. So I definitely think they think it’s a piece of what they need to do and I’m seeing them do it and definitely embracing innovation as a piece of it.

凯蒂[00:36:53]是的,当然。所以现在回到我们的世界,不幸的是,COVID-19世界,所有的这些会如何,你知道,所有的需要现在存在由于pandemic-how可能扮演一个角色在未来的先锋。卫生和其他挑战,你认为你会帮助先锋,或者你认为,我们会看到新兴未来几个月?

珍妮花[00:37:20]现在我们有詹妮弗预测未来。我要经历一个冒名顶替者综合症,我预测未来。我不认为我是一个专家,但也许我是。所以COVID-19已经非常困难,我们都在我们要做什么和我们如何出来。我认为我们低着头,为患者创造一个安全的地方在社区,很难让我们的未来是什么样子。所以我认为这是早,但我绝对认为这将是两个大事情。一,我认为它会是会议或大型集会很难回来。从医疗保健和我说。什么时候我们认为波士顿是舒适允许收集的超过10或20吗?我认为会很难有一个医疗保健会议在2021年之前在波士顿。 It’s just gonna be hard. I could be wrong. You know, I think Q3 would be the earliest, but I would be surprised if we brought back conferences by that early and I could go through what I understand other countries have gone through in terms of getting us there. But two, I think, we’re going to get and we’re already getting much more comfortable with digital communication, so people working from home. From what I’ve seen of businesses and what’s happening is now its two things. One. Conferences used to automatically bring these high touch communities together. We don’t have that. So how do you replicate that?

凯蒂[00:38:55]。

珍妮花(00:38:57)看起来像什么?而且,你知道,具体来说,你知道,可能更多的小型企业,但可能大型企业领先一代,寻找新客户,但也只是与客户保持联系,以确保你在做什么,你提供的是经常和他们在一起。所以我认为我们会看到一个大的转变。我要这样说。我不是一大群人。我不喜欢音乐会。我可能是一个内向的人。我喜欢在家里和在一个大型音乐会。和我总是just-conferences对我来说很难。这是这昂贵的没办法。 There’s a lot of travel. It’s a lot of constant interaction. I think we’re going to learn that conferences—we’re going to—something’s going to replace conferences. They might come back, but it’s gonna be [00:39:46]smaller. And we’re going to have a digital future together and we’re going to be more digitally communicating. [5.8s]

凯蒂(00:39:54)是的,我也这样认为。甚至我一直很兴奋地看到——引入新技术,至少对我来说再熟悉不过了。我们的团队一直在与客户使用,使用像壁画和设置不同的在线研讨会,例如。

珍妮花[00:40:06]哦,是的。

凯蒂[00:40:07]我们把便签纸上这些帆布董事会和投票的想法。它是如此美妙。这是诚实的在某些方面更好。我爱人类互动。我可能你相反。我喜欢外向的百分之一百。但是,是的,我喜欢这个,因为你可以。人们可以推荐的想法和便利贴。然后你可以启动一个会话,每个人都参与投票表决最好的想法。没有人的感情受到伤害,因为这都是匿名的。 So they’re just really interesting things where like you try to do that in a group setting. You have no confirmation bias. You still have confirmation bias, but you have the social pressure to not offend someone. And it’s hard to say, oh, no, that idea sucks. This is the great one. [00:40:57]But that kind of technology at least empowers some different ways that we can collaborate together while we’re apart? [6.7s]

珍妮花00:41:04绝对。我爱技术和我爱的原因。[00:41:09]所以我建立一个社交网络和在线社区的一部分是投票的想法也交谈。所以我们收集的一些数据,因为我们谈论这有时当你构建软件,您正在构建偏见到软件。所以你构建的软件创建的偏见,意思我建立一个社交网络,少数民族或女性不一样聊天,没有听说过或者不投票了?你想,当你建立类似的东西,很小心。所以我们非常小心的监控,确保发生。我们发现,非官方的数字,结束了,你知道,数百到二百高级科学家和医生之间的对话是女性更容易参与远程因为他们可以参与。所以你有更多他们的声音然后他们倾向于参加男女平等,而常常在现实生活环境中,女性是讨论过,因为你不能讨论数字的人。正确的。 Like it’s a comment. It’s a comment. So I’m excited about digital communication because I think it’s an opportunity to get some good voices out there. [74.2s]

凯蒂[00:42:24]我完全同意你的观点。什么一种乐观的方式来结束我们的谈话。我希望我能跟你一次好几天。这是如此美妙。詹妮弗·乔,我难以置信的灵感来自于你的工作,你的视角,你的承诺,你的谦逊是一个意想不到的和可爱的,可爱的。我认为我们需要更多的我们的领导地位。好了,拥抱你卑微的领导(00:42:53)品质。我认为这只会建立更多的信任和信誉的人是非常幸运的被你领导。(7.8秒)

珍妮花[00:43:02]这都很好词。凯蒂,我一直非常启发和荣幸这次谈话的一部分。我真的很感激你接触,让我的故事被告知和期待你会做所有的事情和创造。当你激励一代或一个社区,生活就是这样,对吧?这就是我们的生活。

凯蒂[00:43:25]是的,没错。非常感谢你,詹妮弗。我期待着继续跟进你的工作。你能告诉我们你在社交媒体上我们的听众在哪里可以找到?

珍妮花[00:43:35]你可以找到我在LinkedIn, Facebook和Twitter。在LinkedIn,詹妮弗·乔,MD。这就像詹妮弗·洛佩兹但JJoe。我有患者,老年患者,谁还记得我。并非如此。詹妮弗,乔,vanguard.health J-O-E,医学博士在LinkedIn和。

凯蒂[00:43:59]精彩。非常感谢。我们会尽快和你谈谈。

珍妮花(00:44:02)谢谢。

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